Hot And Cold Slot Machines

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darkoz
I have read that there is no such thing as a hot or cold slot machine. The debunkers claim a slot does not have intelligence and so does not create hot or cold spells.
I agree, if machines were hot or cold, it would have nothing to do with any type of AI or whatever however I have seen machines that went on abnormally long winning spells and yes, abnormally long losing ones as well.
Can a person for hour after hour get lucky and keep hitting at exactly the right time to trigger more and more wins --- or--- is the machine hot vs. cold?
I have my own theory which I believe is grounded in sound mathematical properties (coming admittedly from someone who is not a mathematician.)
So, here goes. Feel free to debunk me. This is my opinion. (Please debunk me in a nice manner :)
Every symbol in a slot has a weighted denominational value. Lets take cherries vs. sevens.
So, lets say, at a $2 max spin, three cherries is a fifty cent win and three sevens is a $5 win.
Clearly, the sevens are worth ten times more than the cherries and clearly, they are almost certainly going to appear ten times less than the cherries (or at least have some mathematical relationship to how they appear differently.)
If that is the case, then the RNG is not 100% random. It must over the course of longevity, spit out ten times more cherries than sevens. It's just the short term spitting out of the random numbers that is in question and there may be long spells, more than say 10:1 where the sevens are not generated.
And then, suddenly, as the long-term odds of this random number generation come closer to correct probability, the sevens suddenly start being generated in a cluster.
You still have to depress the slot button at the right moment, but if lots of random sevens are being generated, there is a better chance for you to get the winning combinations.
This is why you sometimes see the bonus round symbols suddenly dropping spin after spin until suddenly you hit all three for a bonus round.
It doesn't mean you cant get a bonus round or winning sevens on the first spin. It's still random, but the machines have 'hot' streaks due to the randomness of the generator and the clustering of certain more valuable symbols that suddenly get generated.
I'm not saying the RNG is making an intelligent choice to suddenly 'go hot' but that it is performing a function of its programming to spit out numbers(symbols) at the correct ratio to justify the weighted payouts on a given slot.
Anyway, that's my theory!

And one of the most popular beliefs that players carry with them is the idea that machines run hot and cold. If a machine is making frequent payouts and offering bonus rounds, it's hot. On the other hand, games that are stingy with payouts are said to be cold. The second group of 'experts' say that slot machines can and do run in cycles of hot or cold. Personally, based on my own years of experience of slot machine gaming, I believe that both theories are valid but experience also tells me that the machines DO run in cycles of a sort where they can be either cold, lukewarm, or totally HOT, baby! A visually stunning slot from NetEnt, Double Stacks features traditional slot machine symbols – namely fruits like melons, plums, cherries and lemons, and symbols like bells and bars. The modern take on an old favorite suited Kelly B well as she played the five-reel, three-row slot on her computer desktop.

onenickelmiracle
It would make sense a looser machine would get on more hot streaks and tighter machines more cold streaks. You could be wrong, but I think as just a guess, you would have less success chasing cold streak machines.
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DRich
Sorry, but you clearly don't understand the probabilities and statistics behind it.
Use flipping a coin as an example. If you get heads three times in a row doesn't mean you will be getting more tails in the future to make up for it. If after those three flips you flip it another million times you would expect an average of 500k heads and 500k tails. You would not expect more tails. Therefore after a million and three spins the percentages are: 50.0003% Heads and 49.9997% Tails
A typical reel slot machine has about a 7% hold so although those patterns you see matter, they will have almost zero effect and you will still be losing almost 7%.
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darkoz

Sorry, but you clearly don't understand the probabilities and statistics behind it.
Use flipping a coin as an example. If you get heads three times in a row doesn't mean you will be getting more tails in the future to make up for it. If after those three flips you flip it another million times you would expect an average of 500k heads and 500k tails. You would not expect more tails. Therefore after a million and three spins the percentages are: 50.0003% Heads and 49.9997% Tails
A typical reel slot machine has about a 7% hold so although those patterns you see matter, they will have almost zero effect and you will still be losing almost 7%.


I don't disagree with the hold or that hot and cold machines based on my theory is an AP'able matter.
I was addressing hot and cold swings on slots. The hold would still occur, naturally.
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onenickelmiracle
There is no way to tell if a slot machine Is typical. Around here the slots even with max bets of $10-$50 will hold more than you describe at 7%. Not reel slots, but they have been pegged.
I think it is irresponsible of you to even say a typical reel slot will hold 7%, because many readers may have available locally will hold 12% or more. This being a public forum, you're placing a dangerous belief in people's heads with people very well playing slots vastly underestimating their odds.
It would be like saying typically you can drink six beers without getting a DUI and some 90 pound lady drives head on into traffic. You've mentioned some manufacturers wanting slots at 80%, so shouldn't be so plain implying things are so simple as typically holding 7%.
Slots are opaque, but if you're walking blind, you're not going to keep grabbing what feels like a rod when you're looking for a door knob. Maybe it was a door knob, but you're better off looking for what you think is what you're looking for.
You know so much about slots, what they're set at, where they're set at, go play a game you know for a fact has a really bad hold for 8 hours, then play the same game for 8 hours you know is set to the manufacturer's best setting and then tell me if they felt the same. Yeah maybe you won't need a million spins, might as well play two machines while you're at it. I'm sure you'll do great on all 4 machines. You should probably just bet max.
When you write things like you do, people are going to translate it wrong. You're going to think you're telling them they can win or lose on any slot, but what they're going to hear is they can win on any slot every time and if they didn't, it was just bad luck, not even accounting for the fact they never stood a chance. They'll try for 24 hours in a row not even questioning the fact even trying was foolish. People out there are going to play hundreds of hours of slots, and they're not going to most likely be playing at 140%, but they could right. Probably only Neo then he'll stick his hand through the slot machine and hit megabucks. Who even wants to reach the slot return anyways? People are just trying to guess a machine with a slightly higher return and not want to feel cheated as if they played the house machine with the worst odds in the place.
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Anyway, that's my theory!

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There is no way to tell if a slot machine Is typical. Around here the slots even with max bets of $10-$50 will hold more than you describe at 7%. Not reel slots, but they have been pegged.
I think it is irresponsible of you to even say a typical reel slot will hold 7%, because many readers may have available locally will hold 12% or more. This being a public forum, you're placing a dangerous belief in people's heads with people very well playing slots vastly underestimating their odds.


Of course you can't tell what is typical but if you go around the U,S, and play all of the Reel slots I would think 7% would be a reasonable estimate. Now if you went around and played all the Video slots I would put that number closer to 10%.
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You know so much about slots, what they're set at, where they're set at, go play a game you know for a fact has a really bad hold for 8 hours, then play the same game for 8 hours you know is set to the manufacturer's best setting and then tell me if they felt the same. Yeah maybe you won't need a million spins, might as well play two machines while you're at it. I'm sure you'll do great on all 4 machines. You should probably just bet max.


I have analyzed millions of spins on video slots so I probably know more than most people.
onenickelmiracle
Dr. Rich, I've played at good casinos and bad casinos. Back when Soaring Eagle has Certified Hot machines the experience was night and day. Was meeting the slot fanatics website group and there were a lot of happy campers. The casino got rid of the loose slots program and all you ever see is complainers now. Most of the casinos I ever gambled with slots, I would say they're all bad. None of them have a majority of reel slots anymore, because they're just hopeless. As stupid as a slot machine really is with any setting, they're really stupid the farther from 100% you get. Plus with video slots money goes faster more than the numbers might predict because you lose all the marvels of nice wins and happy bonuses, time goes faster.
If a time traveler came here from 2006, you don't think he would notice anything playing the same slots he did in his time while in our time? He wouldn't be suspicious at all or feel unlucky? Say he plays two four hour sessions for 5 days in a packed casino with people playing all around him. He plays 40,000 spins on reel slots, indirectly observes 20 people around him also playing, which becomes 800,000 spins. Of course mostly seeing or hearing those closer to him, but many of the people tell everyone when they win, and tell him about their losses to that point accurately. Of course he can't determine the hold to a hundredth of a percent, but can make a judgement whether A) slots haven't changed, B) changed a little, C) changed a lot, or D) have gotten better a little or a lot. Of course maybe he knows statistics and probabilities and maybe he doesn't. I just can't believe he would say D and people would probably suggest B or C when he complains about bad luck and dead spells. You get the point.
I'll ask one more question. If a large casino had 9 banks of 40 reel slots. One bank from 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016, are you telling me the players wouldn't gravitate to the older banks thinking they paid better and be disappointed if they chose to play the more modern settings because they were available with open seats?
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A typical reel slot machine has about a 7% hold so although those patterns you see matter, they will have almost zero effect and you will still be losing almost 7%.

ROTFLMAO.... Do they pay you so say that nonsense ? If I could average 9% I would be in slot heaven.
Other than that.....
Cold anyone not taking Drich's advice about slots is an idiot. He generally knows what he's talking about.
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